OK I give. Really, I need to learn to make a curly ribbon or I will loose what little sanity I have left. First let me say, I need a tut or a free plug in, just am not in the position to purchase anything right now. I tried Vizros - alas it is no longer free, I have PS7 - which I use and PSE3 which I have been avoiding like the plague. CS2 is sitting very patiently over by Alex's desk just waiting to be incorporated into my plethora o' software but I have been beating it back with a stick because I really don't want to have to learn another dang program. I have 15 million filters (and don't think that's an exaggeration cause it's not lol) Today I even went so far as to use tear, seperate the tears, reattached them, copied it, flipped it behind the top layer to try and simulate a curly ribbon ARGHHHHH!!!!!!!! Somebody out there is holding onto this information as though it were the meaning of life! Share, please??? Oh and don't even get me started on bows!!!